Jo Walton ([info]papersky) wrote,
@ 2008-02-28 18:56:00
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The industrial ruins of elfland
I grew up in a post-industrial landscape. I didn't know it, of course. I thought it was normal. It took me a surprisingly long time to see it.


The South Wales valleys were empty until the industrial revolution, and then in the eighteenth and nineteenth century they abruptly filled up with people there to extract the iron and coal. If you've ever wondered why there was no massive Welsh immigration to the New World, on the scale of the Scottish and Irish immigrations, it's not that they didn't have the same problems farming, it's that they had their own boom towns, their own industry, there own place to go. English people went there too -- there's a reason most people in Wales speak English.

There's a reason they're called "The Valleys" too. They consist of very narrow glaciated valleys with steep sides and not much flat land at the bottom. When they found the iron and the coal they built houses on the flat bits first, and then ran them up the sides in brick Victorian terraces -- row houses, row on row, houses terraced like grapes on a hillside with barely room between them to hang out washing.

Aberdare, where I come from, has a twelfth century church, St John's. In 1700, it probably also had a handful of farms and a population of maybe five hundred. You can see valleys like it in West Wales today, where they had no industrial resouces underneath. They're beautiful. Aberdare is beautiful too, when you lift up your eyes to the hills. The hills are a bowl all around, they're green, they're lovely, there are sheep on them -- grey sheep, because of the coal dust. When I was a kid the sheep would come down into the town and knock over people's dustbins. I can never understand people being sentimental about sheep. They're about as appealing to me as pigeons. They're the reason you keep your gates shut.

Iron was discovered, and coal, people started building smelters on the spot, railroads to take it out, houses for workers, more smelters, more mines, more houses. The valleys were solid with houses and people and industry. They were like a city except for the actual city bit. Habitation was in solid strips. The towns and villages ran into each other, up and down, rarely over the mountains, and the roads were terrible. (For years I thought the song "She'll be coming round the mountain" was about someone taking the narrow treacherous route over the Graig from Maerdy.) Then the iron ran out, or was cheaper to produce somewhere else, and while there was still coal mining in the seventies -- though not today -- it was a pitiful remnant of the boom of a hundred years before. Iron works were abandoned. Pits were closed down. The people stayed because they stayed, though sensibly there was nothing there for them. The valley ought to have a population of about a thousand, and it has about fifty thousand. Unemployment is still chronic.

I grew up playing in the ruins, and I had no idea of any of this history. It was a wonderful place for children. It was abandoned and grown-over and ignored, and when you got away from the houses it was wild. Wilderness was there in the cracks. You could always go up the mountain into read countryside, but there were these seams of trees and ruins running everywhere through the towns. There was a lot of away to get to very close. I never thought about what it was. It wasn't the only landscape I knew -- we went on holiday to Pembrokeshire every year, and we went up into the Brecon Beacons fairly often, and to the Gower, and to Cardiff, which is an actual city, with city shops -- but it was the landscape of normality.

If there was a discipline of industrial archaeology then, I missed it entirely. I was in and out of the library. There was one summer where I went to the library practically every day (for complicated reasons, I only had three library tokens) and took the books up the river and sat in the ruins reading and never thought about looking for a book to tell me what was giving me shade, or more often keeping the rain off.

My Aunt Jane lives next to an abandoned ironworks. It's notable because we actually knew what it was. We used to play in it, climbing over the walls. It was a great place for hide and seek, and for castles. I knew what castles were. We didn't have one, but Wales is full of them, I'd been to lots of them. I had no idea what an ironworks was -- if pressed, I'd have figured out from etymology it was somewhere one worked iron, but I wasn't ever pressed about it. I knew the word, and I knew the thing. It was all over rosebay willow-herb in the autumn. I didn't know who'd built it, or why, or how old it was. I just led groups of kids racing through it.

If the fallen bricks and stones could have talked, all they'd have said to me was : "Deep they delved us, fair they wrought us, high they builded us, but they are gone. They are gone. They sought the Havens long ago." I knew that.

In the woods, there were lots more ruins, much more ruined than the ironworks. We played that they were witch's cottages and giant's castles and fairy palaces and Hitler's last redoubt and the ruins of Angband. I still don't know what they were. They might have been eighteenth century workmen's cottages, but probably they were more ironworks, older ones. If they'd actually had magical inhabitants, they would have been kobolds.

The places of my childhood were linked by magical pathways, ones almost no adults used. They had roads, we had these, they were for walking, they were different and extra, wider than a path but not big enough for cars, sometimes parallel to the real roads and sometimes cutting from nowhere to nowhere, from an elven ruin to the labyrinth of Minos. We gave them names, but we knew unquestioningly that the real word for them was "dramroads". I was fifteen and living in England before I turned that word over in my mouth and saw it for what it was. "Tram road". Welsh mutates initial consonants of words -- actually all languages do, but most of them take hundreds of years and Welsh does it while you still have your mouth open. Tram to dram. Of course. Once, there had been trams running on rails up those dramroads, trams full of iron ore, or coal. So empty and leaf-strewn, they'd once been little railroads. (One of them cut across Common Ake, where we used to picnic sometimes in the summer. It was an unenclosed common, full of meadow plants and butterflies. People have built very ugly houses on it now.)

It wasn't that I didn't know history. Even if you only count the real world, I knew more history than most people. I'd been taught about cavemen and Normans and Tudors. I knew about Greeks and Romans. I knew masses of personal stories about World War II. I even knew a lot of family history. It just didn't connect to the landscape.

The bit of history that isn't quite in living memory is hard to know. My grandparents were born in 1905, when the Valleys were already beginning their long decline. And history was kings and queens and wars and conquests, it wasn't building ironworks and surrenduring them back to nature.

These days, the Valleys are an Industrial Heritage Zone. Coal mining is over, but there are coal museums, industrial museums. There's a lot more awareness of all of this than there used to be. Also, history in schools makes much more connections to local landscape and actual places, not to mention social history. It's also all been tidied up and tamed. And one of the dramroads has been made into a dual carriageway (two lanes in each direction highway) cutting around the town.

When I think about it now, it seems that I thought I was living in a fantasy landscape, when actually I was living in a science fictional one. In total ignorance, I played my way through what elves and giants had left me, rather than seeing what was there as post-apocalyptic. I named the dramroads after places in The Lord of the Rings when I should have recognised that they were from The Chrysalids.

It's amazing the size of thing that it's possible to overlook.


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[info]steepholm
2008-02-29 12:08 am UTC (link)
Fascinating post. I was in a plane over the Valleys a few months ago, flying to Dublin, and the shape you describe was very apparent. They all looked very isolated from each other, too - long lozenge universes.

By the way, in Bristol we have - or had - an early horse-drawn railway called the Dramway, dating from the 1820s. It'd be interesting to know if it was built by Welshmen.

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[info]janetmk
2008-02-29 12:19 am UTC (link)
Thank you. Very interesting.

I'm glad I had a chance to see a bit of the valleys.

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[info]msagara
2008-02-29 12:19 am UTC (link)
There's a book there, Jo, and I selfishly want you to write it.

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[info]papersky
2008-02-29 12:46 pm UTC (link)
What about?

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[info]anghara
2008-02-29 12:26 am UTC (link)
I LOVED this. There's a story in there somewhere fluttering its wings. Write it. Only you can.

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[info]wcg
2008-02-29 12:47 am UTC (link)
The bit of history that isn't quite in living memory is hard to know.

So very, very true. Thank you.

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[info]kateelliott
2008-02-29 01:00 am UTC (link)
thank you for this wonderful post.

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[info]19_crows
2008-02-29 01:07 am UTC (link)
Very interesting.

Growing up I had a hard time grasping that history wasn't something separate, something away from here, but that it took place right here. Right where I live. Partly that was because so much of it was about the Revolutionary War, but we did study California history in 4th grade. Still, it wasn't till later when a friend who always looks at things this way told me about how he'd figured out on an old map that this battle of the Mexican-American War took place on El Camino right by what's now the Moonlight Shopping Center that I started to realize that history happened here. Where I am.

Thanks.

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[info]malkingrey
2008-02-29 01:23 am UTC (link)
If you've ever wondered why there was no massive Welsh immigration to the New World, on the scale of the Scottish and Irish immigrations, it's not that they didn't have the same problems farming, it's that they had their own boom towns, their own industry, there own place to go.

One country the Welsh did go to in the New World was, of all places, Argentina -- there's a Patagonian web page on the subject here -- where "Jones" (pronounced after the Spanish fashion, of course) is a common surname, and you have towns named things like "Trelew" and "Puerto Madryn."


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[info]arwel_p
2008-02-29 08:13 am UTC (link)
Though "Yr Wladfa" is probably an example of the disproportionate influence a small number of people can have in an empty place. Prof. Gwyn Williams is reported to have estimated that no more than 2300 people ever migrated directly from Wales to Patagonia between 1865 and 1914. A book I picked up at the National Eisteddfod last year noted that the town council of Rawson was already keeping most of its records in Spanish by the late 1880s, with some records in Welsh and the occasional item in English.

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[info]hobbitbabe
2008-02-29 02:05 am UTC (link)
When I was growing up on the edge of the Steel City, everyone's driveway had lumps of slag on it instead of fancy imported gravel. All the factories blew their shift-change whistles at midnight New Year's Eve, and our parents used to carry us outside in blankets to hear. Some of the factories are still running three shifts, but I don't know whether they even have whistles any more. Next to the railway nearest to our house, there were always lumps of coal and lumps of brick that had fallen off trains. I was almost surprised, the other day, to notice that there weren't any lumps of coal on the tracks in Kingston station.

Our summer cottage had different magical-archaeology. Things like, you know in whichever CS Lewis book had Jill and Eustace and they were supposed to practise the signs so they would see them, but in fact they didn't know that they were walking around in big letters until they got above them? Anyway, there had been tamed gardens a generation earlier. But I used to think that the orange daylilies were some kind of northern wildflower until I discovered the overgrown edges of the former flowerbeds. And there was a very useful shed in the backyard, where you could stack the dry end of the woodpile and squeeze in a couple of child's bicycles except that you had to be careful because nails stuck out under the roof. It was a triangular shaped shed with a shingle roof (like a big pup tent, no ends or floor) and was always called the "icehouseroof". It was years before I got it through my head that it hadn't been built this way. There was an actual ice house when my dad was a kid - they would store blocks of lake ice in sawdust in the winter and use them for refrigeration in the summer. And eventually it fell down and bracken grew around it and we kept using the roof.

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[info]timill
2008-02-29 07:01 am UTC (link)
The Silver Chair

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[info]tekalynn
2008-02-29 02:13 am UTC (link)
We had Welsh, in our part of California. They came to mine the coal, then they mined the sand, and then they mined nothing at all and dispersed into the general population, leaving only their names in the cemetery on the mountaintop. The remains of the five villages are in Black Diamond California State Park.

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[info]scbutler
2008-02-29 02:58 am UTC (link)
One of the most fascinating things I did on a trip to Wales a few years ago was visit a slate mine. I don't remember where. We rode a tram down to the bottom of the earth, then followed the lights from room to room, all of which looked like something out of the best sort of fantasy novel. Now and again the Welsh Men's Chorus broke out into subdued song. An underground son et lumiere.

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[info]timill
2008-02-29 07:01 am UTC (link)
Blaenau Ffestiniog?

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[info]calanthe_b
2008-02-29 03:24 am UTC (link)
So fascinating...

Thanks for writing this.

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[info]al_zorra
2008-02-29 03:48 am UTC (link)
Thank you so much for this post. I grew up like this, except a different continent, a different geology and geography, but a world going - gone to ruins -- in such a short time, this northern midwest.

For example:

Cousins and I played on abandoned rail tracks and platforms, where even, perhaps, when we were born, the locals made dairy runs to pick up milk from the farms that were owned by our grandparents.

Well, that should be enough to get the idea I was brought up in world that was fairly finished, yet educated for that world, not the one that was already in place, and that I'd have to try and make way into.

Love, C.

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[info]ndrosen
2008-02-29 03:56 am UTC (link)
Some Welsh did go the U.S. (for example). I toured a coal mine and museum near Scranton, Pennsylvania, last summer, and learned about 19th century immigration. English and Welsh miners tended to have experience, and could speak English, so they had a head start rising to skilled positions. Peasants' younger sons and whatnot from Ireland, Italy, Poland, Hungary, and came over and took the less skilled jobs; working twelve hour shifts in a coal mine for payment in company scrip was an improvement over their prospects in Europe, if you can believe it.

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[info]embryomystic
2008-03-07 12:07 am UTC (link)
I can believe it, knowing a bit about what was going on in Ireland and Poland in the 19th century.

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[info]sovay
2008-02-29 03:56 am UTC (link)
In the woods, there were lots more ruins, much more ruined than the ironworks. We played that they were witch's cottages and giant's castles and fairy palaces and Hitler's last redoubt and the ruins of Angband. I still don't know what they were. They might have been eighteenth century workmen's cottages, but probably they were more ironworks, older ones. If they'd actually had magical inhabitants, they would have been kobolds.

You should put stories there.

Thank you for this.

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[info]nineweaving
2008-02-29 04:36 am UTC (link)
Thank you. That is marvellous; I want the book.

Nine

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[info]papersky
2008-02-29 12:50 pm UTC (link)
But what would it be about? There isn't a story there, except the story of me not recognising what it was.

And the story of my childhood would be like Cranford except with the end of Hamlet. Or, having just remembered something that changes register like that, like The Towers of Trebizond.

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[info]ashnistrike
2008-02-29 06:34 am UTC (link)
How nifty and strange. Thank you.

I find that the U.S.ian landscape makes a certain amount more sense if you realize that it's one of those 500-years-after-the-collapse-of-civilization settings, complete with areas bearing the mispronounced names of dead cities ("The ancients called this land Noo-Yok").

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[info]pogodragon
2008-02-29 08:24 am UTC (link)
I'm going to point [info]jeremy_m at this post - he was born Cwm Carn, near Newport. His mum has lots of problems with the sheep coming down from the mountain and trashing her garden.

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[info]mevennen
2008-02-29 08:54 am UTC (link)
The Milford SF workshop is held these days at a centre in the Snowdonia National Park, and up at the back of the centre is a land known to Milfordites as 'Mordor', because it looks like it - slate heaps, huge green pools with small plaques around them listing the victims of diving accidents, and a ruined 18th century mansion covered with crimson handprints and references in Welsh to the Sons of Fire. And it has ravens.

My own family come from Haverfordwest, which is obviously less industrial - but I was fascinated by the Milford Haven refineries when I was a child, all those tongues of flame shooting up into the night.

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[info]shewhomust
2008-02-29 09:28 am UTC (link)
It's amazing the size of thing that it's possible to overlook.

Wonderful. I grew up in East London in the 50s, and we played on the patch of waste land on the corner of the street, known as "the bomb site". When I was eight or nine they bulldozed it flat, cleared off the rosebay willow herb and tarmac'ed it into the adjacent school playground, which wasn't half as much fun.

I'm embarrassed to tell you how long it took me to put that together with what I knew about the Blitz.

Weardale is also post-industrial; the high moors were mined for lead from the middle ages on.

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[info]rezendi
2008-02-29 10:37 am UTC (link)
Wow. I really want to go there now.

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[info]papersky
2008-02-29 12:59 pm UTC (link)
There's a train to Cardiff every hour from Paddington, and buses from there up to Aberdare. The bus is the best way to go, because it takes the old road. You could do there and back in a day, I have done it the other way around -- when my grandfather was dying in hospital in Merthyr and I was working in London, I practically commuted it for a little while.

However, I should warn you the Valleys are objectively very ugly, and Z's reaction to is it "How can people live here? Why don't they leave?"

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[info]ffutures
2008-02-29 11:12 am UTC (link)
For some reason this reminded me of a book I read as a child - not sure of the title but I think it was by Paul Berna, a French children's author who wrote some juvy SF. In the novel a group of kids find a long disused railway and an old engine that they are surprised to find seems to be intact, spend months rebuilding it, and start to run it up and down the tracks. Before they know it they're regenerating the region by getting the transport running again, and eventually the adults take notice and decide to reopen the railway.

So I Googled him to check which book it was - and it turns out that he died yesterday. Bloody hell...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F01EED81639F93BA15752C0A962958260

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[info]papersky
2008-02-29 12:53 pm UTC (link)
What timing.

I haven't read that one, but I remember loving The Knights of King Midas when I was a kid. His work lives on.

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[info]fledgist
2008-02-29 12:53 pm UTC (link)
You would have been too young to remember Aberfan, Jo. The headmaster of my primary school was from the Rhondda, and he rushed to Aberfan to take part in the effort to dig out the school when the tip collapsed.

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[info]papersky
2008-02-29 01:05 pm UTC (link)
I don't remember it, but the story was very much part of my consciousness growing up, and one of my schoolfriends older cousins was a survivor.

The most appalling thing about the story was how people around the country sent toys, to a town that had lost almost all its children. You can see why they did, but you can also see how incredibly painful it would have been getting them.

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[info]randwolf
2008-02-29 01:47 pm UTC (link)
"This land is burning
Turning to ash as it hits the air
Every line is a place on a map
It's a city or valley
A mark on these miles of fields"
--Suzanne Vega

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[info]lyle_hopwood
2008-03-01 12:53 am UTC (link)
Here via Making Light.

Wonderful post, Jo - I can see the scene in my head; the children playing in the ruins. I grew up in West Yorkshire. We had no mineheads around our part. In my case the utterly strange things I grew up thinking were normal were the waterways - the canals, the millponds and the diverted streams for the millworks. (Becks, in our dialect.) In the sixties, many of the waterways and ponds were broken and almost dry, but even then a few people were restoring locks and making portions of the canals navigable again, and enterprising mill-renovators were beginning to repair the ponds. Haven't been back for many years, but from the web it looks like you can no longer tell the mills were ruined.

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