Jo Walton ([info]papersky) wrote,
@ 2006-09-20 08:42:00
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A link, and some reflection on life validating experiences on trains.
We own our apartment! Both sides of our apartment! And I actually got a proper night's sleep last night, for the first time for absolutely ages. I wake up somewhere around six pretty much no matter what time I get to bed, which doesn't mix well with late nights.

There's an interview with me about Farthing at SCI FI Wire here -- actually if you read this livejournal you probably know everything in it. I'm not sure why so many online thingies want to interview me about Farthing, this never happened with any of my other books. Either there are more online thingies needing to fill their space, or this may be a good thing. I'm having slight problems with finding different ways of wording answers to pretty similar questions. But there are worse problems.

That reminds me -- on Sunday morning, I had to come home in the early morning to collect a copy of The Return of the King for [info]pnh to read from at the ten o'clock panel. As I was zipping across the city on the metro at 06h30 (sometimes it's useful to be an early riser), I thought: "How wonderful this is! Who could have imagined at fifteen that adult life would be so terrific that I could actually have a genuine urgent need to briefly leave a party celebrating the launch of my fifth novel to run across town to collect a copy of The Return of the King!" I had a good choice of editions, but I picked my oldest one, the first one I owned, though not the first one I read, the Unwin three paperbacks edition bought in Harrods and got for my birthday in 1976 and read and read and read and read and... there's a bookmark in it of the writing on the ring that I made in 1977.

[info]truepenny was saying a little while ago that you shouldn't rely on external validation, because nothing is ever enough. I think there are ways in which that's true, and certainly T.S. Eliot agrees, but even so, there are moments where it is external validation and it is too enough, and that was one of them.

It's very peculiar, but most of mine seem to happen on trains.

On the way back from Ireland when I'd just found out that I'd sold The King's Peace I was going to Lancaster on a train to collect [info]zorinth who had been staying with [info]carandol, and I was talking to the people sitting by me about their best options for getting from Oxenholme ("The Lake District") station to the actual bit of the Lake District where the lakes and mountains are, and one of them asked me the polite stranger-conversation question about career and I heard the words coming out of my mouth: "I've just sold my first novel." There's nothing like just selling your first novel unless it's sitting on a train mentioning it casually to a stranger.

The other one that comes to mind is when Zorinth and I were going to Arizona on the train to the World Fantasy Con in Tempe. The train was due into Flagstaff at 21h00 (and it was there to the minute, the trains in the US are so prompt, so big, so comfortable) and as the evening was coming on and the sun was setting (US trains have these awesome observation cars) we were running through New Mexico and Arizona and there were mountains on each side of us and there were clouds streaming along the mountain ridges, and all the clouds were dragon-headed, and dragon-coloured in the reflections of the sunset. We were talking about the dragon clouds, and Zorinth said, smiling, but quite seriously: "They're all going to Tempe to see if your dragon book wins the World Fantasy Award." And as external validation goes I don't think you can beat that one either, not just the honour of the nomination (and then winning) but the dragon-clouds and the Zorinth.

Cattle die, kinsmen die, the world itself will someday die, even well-achieved wordfame doesn't last forever -- but none of it needs to, even after I am dust and everything I ever wrote, after trains are forgotten, and dragon clouds, and the very concept of stories, those moments of happiness in the corners of railway carriages will have made it all worthwhile.


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[info]coffeeandink
2006-09-20 12:34 pm UTC (link)
Congratulations on the apartment! And the fifth-novel party. :)

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[info]tanac
2006-09-20 12:47 pm UTC (link)
As usual, you've found words for something I can only gesticulate inarticulately at. I've had a lot of those moments the past few years, but never more than here. The aware enjoyment of a life well-earned, I think.

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[info]szandara
2006-09-20 12:49 pm UTC (link)
It's true that one shouldn't rely on external validation, but on those occasions when one does get it, the only proper response is to enjoy the hell out of it.

Go you!!!

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[info]matociquala
2006-09-20 01:24 pm UTC (link)
Yes.

There's a bit of Kurt Vonnegut advice that I try to take when I can. He recommends that, on those rare occasions when things are going well, you take a moment to pause, take a deep breath, and say "Well. Is this nice, or what?"

Congratulations, Jo.

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[info]kip_w
2006-09-20 12:55 pm UTC (link)
Ring writing. By a small coincidence, I dreamt last night of my cousin who wrote to Tolkien about a typo in the runes (right term?) on the title pages of LOTR, and got a nice note back from his secretary. Not that that's what the dream was about -- coincidence goes but so far.

The party sounds like it was great. Yay!

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[info]oursin
2006-09-20 01:13 pm UTC (link)
One shouldn't be dependent on external validation, but people who take no notice of it at all are probably those who are writing their magnum opuses (opi? opera?) in purple ink on graph paper and think that the entire publishing industry is in a conspiracy against them, etc, etc (and never, of course, accept the mildest editorial suggestion). I think liking/appreciating external validation is human, a part of 'No man is an island' (and even if one were an island, one would surely rather it was not Gruinard, and did get the occasional, though non-littering, visitor). Here, as in so many places, there is a reasonable balance to be struck.

(And I do wish I'd been able to get to the Farthing Party.)

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[info]matociquala
2006-09-20 01:26 pm UTC (link)
Well, it's nice. Certainly.

But there's a lot more external degradation in the publishing inductry than validation, I find, and unless one engages in some interesting doublethink, if one takes the good reviews seriously, one also has to do the same for the bad ones.

OTOH, publications and sales are *really nice.*

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[info]papersky
2006-09-20 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Yes, very good way of putting it.

I wish you'd been able to be here too -- maybe next year. (And I love that userpic.)

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[info]timill
2006-09-20 02:24 pm UTC (link)
Magnum opussies?

(Magna opera would be more usual)

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[info]shewhomust
2006-09-20 01:54 pm UTC (link)
As external validation goes, these two experiences are pretty - um - internal; which makes this a very wise as well as a very beautiful piece of writing.

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[info]fidelioscabinet
2006-09-20 01:55 pm UTC (link)
Congratulations on achieving home ownership--and without having to pack and move across town, too! This means more room for books, right?

Maybe the external validation is a bit like chocolate; it's certainly possible to live without it, even if it might not be much fun that way. However, living for that and that alone--if chocolate's the only thing your life has going for it, what sort of life is that? But when chocolate shows up, it should be enjoyed, if at all possible!

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[info]zingerella
2006-09-20 02:35 pm UTC (link)
Happy home ownership!

I think you've beautifully articulated a difference between relying on external validation and simply savouring it when it comes. Kinda like believing that no day is complete without chocolate, and therefore feeling unsatisfied when a day comes in which there is no chocolate, and savouring good chocolate when it happens to come your way.

Also, I wish I'd realised that [info]pnh needed a copy of The Return of the King! I had mine with me at the hotel! But then, if I'd known, although I'd have spared you the early morning train trip, I'd have lost you that lovely moment of basking in your happiness. So maybe it's just as well that my copy remained in the room, safe on top of The Portable Dorothy Parker.

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[info]dichroic
2006-09-20 02:36 pm UTC (link)
I suspect a lot of the extra interest in Farthing is because the current parallels are so obvious and frighteningly plausible. I mean, it's probably a little better than the others just as part of your continuing growth as a writer, but what's really different is that despite being set sixty years ago, it has an immediacy whose implications are very disturbing.

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[info]elisem
2006-09-20 02:45 pm UTC (link)
Congratulations on home-acquisition!

And I love what you described here. Happiness indeed, and I am so glad it is yours.

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[info]pyrzqxgl
2006-09-20 03:30 pm UTC (link)
Wonderful stories!

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[info]casacorona
2006-09-20 04:50 pm UTC (link)
Yay for the apartment ownership. It must be a big relief to have it finally settled.

And thank you for the beautiful image of the mountains and dragon-clouds. That's why I live here.

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[info]redbird
2006-09-20 05:48 pm UTC (link)
Yes, and well told. Thank you.

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[info]darcydodo
2006-09-20 06:21 pm UTC (link)
Yay! :)

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[info]kythiaranos
2006-09-20 06:46 pm UTC (link)
I say, Hooray for validation of any kind! :-) I'm glad the Farthing party went well.

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[info]daystreet
2006-09-20 08:32 pm UTC (link)
...and Zorinth said, smiling, but quite seriously: "They're all going to Tempe to see if your dragon book wins the World Fantasy Award."

Good lord. That's the sweetest thing I've read all week.

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[info]athenais
2006-09-20 08:33 pm UTC (link)
It's a marvellous thing to be aware of one's own completely joyful moments. Congratulations on your apartment acquisition, too.

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[info]kateelliott
2006-09-20 09:17 pm UTC (link)
That is a lovely story about the dragon clouds and Zorinth.

COngrats on home ownership!

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[info]nineweaving
2006-09-21 07:43 am UTC (link)
Congratulations on the looking-glass apartment.

I wish I could have come to your party.

Nine

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[info]embryomystic
2006-09-21 09:10 am UTC (link)
Well, congratulations, and I must say, I agree with that last paragraph.

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[info]lcohen
2006-09-21 04:49 pm UTC (link)
this was very happy reading!

congratulations!

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[info]ashnistrike
2006-09-22 03:03 am UTC (link)
Congratulations!

"How wonderful this is! Who could have imagined at fifteen that adult life would be so terrific...

I keep wanting to go back and ask my childhood self why I thought growing up would be a bad thing.

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[info]khiemtran
2006-09-22 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Congratulations on your labyrinth. Don't forget the twine!

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[info]baratron
2006-09-29 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Belated congratulations on achieving The Other Side :)

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